I've long since heard people whinging about how Paladins are too powerful.. so I started playing one to see what the fuss was about. OH MY GOD they are completely unbalanced. Get this:
1. Does the least damage of all classes.
2. Hits roughly a tenth of the time.
3. Goes down like a sack of shit should a gnoll fart on the same server.

I don't get it. Paladins are piss-poor at EVERYTHING and get the ever loving crap beaten out of them, yet people say they are overpowered? Paladins need major and dramatic buffs in all areas to be even competative with the lowest of low level monsters.
As it stands they do nothing in terms of damage wise, have average survivability and crap abailities. Wow, I can be invincible for 5 seconds to desperately escape the eight billion murlocks crawling over my ass, but I have a five year cooldown and most monsters chase for for a distance so great it has to be measured in Astronomical Units.
Any other class can take down the combined might of everything in the galaxy with starting weapons compared to how weak a pally is.
So... anyone who says they are even playable needs to shut up and actually play a paladin to realise how dire the situation for us paladin players is.

Thank you. I have a paladin and I have to admit, it was a nice clean road before all the nerfs. We weren't amazing but we did somewhat decent damage and could tank. Now, after two DPS nerfs (we lost seal of the crusader and they nerfed our overall damage output), some of my fights last 2 minutes. However, we are very group oriented. With the right spec, I can tank about 8 mobs and not die. Thats some good stuff. However, because of that, I do the damage of a rogue that is 15 levels below me. This creates a horrible unbalance cause you can be the best tank in the world, but if your damage sucks to the point you cant hold anything, whats the point?

For example, I partied with a rogue and gave him Blessing of Salvation (-30% Threat generated) and I ran in first every time and did 5 hits before the rogue came in. Two hits by the rogue and it switches agro. 4 hits later, the rogue feints but I dont have enough hate on me for the mob to switch..

[Edited by TheYoYo at 11:43 PM on 3/6/2005]

I hear what your saying. I found it hard enough to maintain agro when I did have the Seal of Crusader not working properly. Now I switched up my talents to utilize Seal of Command and Vengeance, but I still cant hold agro that well, not to mention its just 1 mob, not all 7 that get pulled etc.

I can tank well for the most part, so I dont have many issues with that, but damn if Im suppose to be a tank, how can I hold agro? Why are people getting pissed off at me when Im trying everything to hold agro, and the only thing that works is what, Seal of Fury? If I use that, I have piss poor DPS. I cant do a damn thing. Even warriors can produce more damage output then me and hold agro. Whatever, Blizzard needs to re-look the class and set a balance point, no one's happy. Its either oh Im to strong or oh Im to weak.

My 2 cents

Tarilen

Since patch, melee classes don't miss anymore hardly. My friend's pally doesn't, and neither does my warrior. Also, by saying you do the least damage of all the classes is such a lie. Seal of Command is my asskicker on my pally. It procs often, and when I critical on that baby its over for whatever the hell I am fighting. You still kill slow, but my warrior kills even slower. I cannot do crap without rage, you have your arsenal of blessings and seals to guide you. And if things get tough? Just Divine shield, heal, mana potion, run, or whatever it is you do. My paladin is a dueling machine also. Honestly, the only real class that gives me a hard time are shamans who know what they are doing. Saying you are THIS gimped of a class is such a lie and you know it. You know something funny though? Paladins are BACK UP tanks, and SECONDARY healers. Even saying you NEED to do more damage is insane. Paladins do enought damage as it is, your job is to take damage. You obviously do NOT know how to play paladin if all you can do is sit here and whine about your class.

OK HERE IS A HINT on HOW to play paladin for AGRO control.

First off....palas need to read the FFXI paladin pages because there techniques there apply in WOW.

Once you have engaged mobs.....(heal yourself vs getting healed at first) that builds agro up on you.  Since you dont have that DPS power and your in PVE>...go with the faster weapon one handers...each strike builds up hate...while striknig your casting ocasional weak heals on yourself to keep hate up.

That does work....my friends made allys on another server for hell of things...one happens to be a FFXI paladin and he brought up how similar it was to FFXI paladins and hate control.

Just a hint...give it a try.

PS before you go off the hook about saying you dont have DPS power.  Compare it from my shoes. My rogue vs your pala.....you are not gona get the hate I will with dammage alone.  Not saying your hits dont hurt....but in comparison...your hits dont scare me at all.

[Edited by Valewalker at 1:18 PM on 4/15/2005]