Hi Everyone^^:

I'm new to WoW, also I started a undead mage now was lvl 9,

and becoz I gonna reach lvl 10 pretty soon so I don't want waste the

credit point into wront talent, because some of my friend says

Ice/Arcane build was the best but it was hard to lvl btw lvl1~40 

and it better to start with Fire then reset to Ice is that true?,

so can anyone give me some suggestion? thx all

[Edited by sagura at 10:18 PM on 11/6/2005]

I've personally always found it easier to level with a fire/arcane build than a frost/arcane build, though I've heard some say that frost works equally well.
Either way, the first few respecs are rather cheap, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

I have leveld my mage up to 47 using frost and haven't noticed any problems at all.  I probably could get my DPS up a little by respec'n to fire, but meh.  I love the utility that frost gives me.  I love my two O'Shyt buttons, Ice Barrier and Ice Block.  I am invested heavily into frost at the moment, 36 points deep.  The thing I love about my build is I can usually kill a mob off before it even gets to me, taking zero damage.  And in PVP if things go bad I can usually get away.  I've escaped many times from people a lot higher level than me.  Throw on Ice Barrier, pop a frost Nova, blink, sheep and then run like the wind (Swiftness Potion FTW).   This is my build so far:  http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mages/talents.html?0020000000000000000000000000005050231023501351

The rest of my points will go into Arcane until I get to 60.  After I hit 60 I will start to mess with different builds to find my place.  But right now im leaning towards frost as my main elemental type.

[Edited by Hanzotori at 8:57 AM on 11/8/2005]

Definately the frost build I'd go with, until the end-game raiding immunity to frostbite makes the frostbite/shatter combo useless (which is pretty much when you start spending most of your time in Molten Core and Blackwing Lair, something few people ever actually do)

Is the end game raiding immunity you speak of only to do with MC and BWL?  If so I will never have to worry about that ;)

Pretty much. If I recall, most if not all of upper blackrock spire can be frozen (exceptions, of course, being the bosses).

Another nice build is 31 arcane/20 frost. Really more of a PvP thing, since you only get to use PoM and AP every 3 minutes, but dammit! In PvP, you will be GOD!

I've always preferred an arc/fire build for pvp, for the higher dps to burn down people faster.

But if you get that 2200 crit, you've pretty much won. And you have a 50%+normal crit chance to get it, if you only cast 1 frostbolt while they're frozen, that is :)

The main thing about a fire/arc build is the ability to load off:

Polymorph (optional, depends on situation)

arcane power
fireball
presence of mind
pyroblast (thus insta-cast)
fireblast
scorch/fireblast till target dead

Even without crits this is very powerful, and allows you to kill warriors in sometimes just 3 hits.

And spamming scorch is golden, very nice if you want to be lame in AB etc, just hide behind a stone and load of this.

True, you dont get frostbite, but I really dont miss it.
only thing I miss is ice block and spamming rank1 frostbolt for slow and snare proc. (that was my main favorite trick in AV, slowing down anyone who would run around, so that our folks could catch em up. it cost me next-to-nill mana and was cast in 1 sec)

Then I respecced to Arcane/fire, mainly to kill off shamans and druids.

But hey, you win some you lose some

--My experiences as a pvp mage--